let's talk a little bit about season for what people can expect and look forward
to where where you guys at in the process where two weeks from finishing
series for where we have to fly back tonight yes tonight and Benedict and I
have an enormous seem to shoot of Jesus the morning in that you want to practice
it here or not but yeah practice it now or never get out of line right
there's about twenty six pages that were doing that but it's going very well
right
what do you think you guys have since the start of the show I mean I remember
when the show first
someone you know gave me a screener of it before it even aired and instantly
was about what is going to be everyone's new favorite show
starting from that point all these years later how do you think the show has
evolved and how do you keep how do you keep the characters fresh and the
relationships
intense I haven't the faintest idea and I don't know
uh well I suppose one of the tremendous advantages that I know is is very
popular with this crowd is that we just don't make very many
and I'm by just not doing it very often were always fresh and rested when we
make a new series but something like that when you're actually making three
movies a year though I mean that actually is every one of these every two
years less but that's not exaggerate are tiny attainment
but the fuck am I in the same . it must be said guy ritchie's only made two
yeah he get any hassle now yeah we get all the house of making quite a lot I
number I'd forgotten how many will be maybe 13 soon yeah that's almost a
season
yeah horror as the Americans would say half the season
haha ya have it the British are very good at they'll just do five episodes
and be like we're good
and then that's it you don't see anything so why do you think why how are
you guys able to continue making the show and able to come back all these
years when it that's not doesn't seem very I mean from that point of view what
you get when you first read those scriptures to throw hopefully the
audience gets when they when they see it and it is the novelty it's the
reinvention of the wheel
that's damn near perfect from kind of dollars . of view and as we know from
the books but every time it's a sort of placing of that is a blessing of what we
try to achieve you know before in previous episodes and series and there's
an evolution to all the characters and that as an act of the real pleasure to
play and my god is there a lot of that in this in this series
a lot of things come home to roost which is fantastically exciting but it's sort
of chicken
it's full of Brooks Ravens and chickens birds
you know the kind of nesting on the way you can imagine and piano it's it's it's
that really it's it's it's the thing of what's familiar but also what confounds
expectations right and the level of invention and sheer balls eNOS of it i
mean it's a properly
yeah i mean the nominating so ambitious
especially for television in the amount of time in budget we have it's quite
extraordinary and there's also this really there's so many great
undercurrents running under the show there's this is a recurring themes about
addiction and broken relationships and dealing with mental health
how important was that how important was that for you cast of yes there is you
didn't are there a lot of stories about a battery that the flats but yeah I
thought he was solving crimes
what show do you think the Seas CSI miami got i'm sorry skooby doo
yeah I don't know if you get to know what the truth honestly with we tried we
just tried very hard over there of the last six years to keep it evolving and
then that the big thing right from the beginning of doing 90 minute episodes
film length episodes we realize quite quickly that we had to give them a real
scale
you know and you've got to put the characters through an emotional wringer
you can't just have story of the week it's not really like that so as a result
you have to keep the characters are showing some wear and where you can't
have John Watson being constantly astonished by sherlocks deductions
because he would have got used to them so you have to evolve that part of you
have to make sure that as Doyle did that the sherlock holmes at the end of the
stories is not the same and we met at the beginning he has he has changed and
and otherwise it's just not interesting I think that's one of the critical
things about it
if you're going to do a show about a genius you can't do issue about a genius
who doesn't learn right it doesn't make any sense
he can't be the weird scary anymore or man we met in the first episode he just
can't be otherwise he's not learning and they're geniuses do learn so i would
imagine from the riders . and the actors are so brilliant that is quite nice to
throw things at them take them out of their comfort zone and give you stuff to
play with I think as well it isn't it
it's literally nice to throw things at the moment yeah and the boys to play
with it so long as benefit always wears the cult and we never changed the code
haha oh and quite hung up on the cold that's what I'm glad you did that
because I her
it's going to resolve a long standing argument every year
sooo tells me and in a dinner scene of domestic disharmony that we're going to
change the coats and I said we're not changing the coal because I'm what you
see darling
yeah yeah yeahs film while there's gonna be trouble at the mill tonight
I mean that sad when popularity new marriage this your wife in front of an H
code obsesses i'll stick up for Sue sometimes that coat needs to come off
for two reasons
he wears other year yeah
you're darn tootin that reason to have it always might need a minute here
ok yeah well I wear a suit under that coat and also sometimes it's very hot
and sometimes you can see it's hot weather so it does come off every
nothing but we did because we don't actually have many we don't have
anything that you don't know everyone here we have a lot of catch that we try
every year because every year we do an attempt to which is long hurt and it
never makes that's what makes the side changed the TARDIS almost every year you
won't change Sherlock's code
it's still a police box I don't know if you got inside the coach yeah I don't
know yeah I don't open my name is if anyone's out i'll do you see in the
background of the beginning of the video they had all those notes up on the board
and one of them said Doctor Who Sherlock crossover and then in Stevens riding
over my dead body with a bunch of ! I think you'll find that was my android
it's not over there
maybe they're not bear i am not the one who blocks the Doctor Who Sherlock
haha everybody else at this table that blocks it right
no it's Trump as it is from the the first part of his plan
we can't let these two get together to build a wall are have a look like - I
like shocked i like talking like you're like I like bush recognition
I like them haha
anyway biopic
ok or in my face and hair I like it
I didn't think that's the first time I've ever done and don't
Amanda what are you what are you most excited about for season for the three
episodes haha
it's very it's really dark
it's the darkest that Stephen and marker written and yes it is i'm in a dark we
when we read them all the best with what we've been we were kind of overwhelmed
by the thing
yeah i guess they were shocking and amazing as always but they kinda if we
can pull yourself then it's amazing
it's a genuine you an emotional roller coaster this series and the the learning
curves are sort of yeah
the massive with Jake's with joke
there are third some great jokes uh-huh
i'm doing , also quite here yeah it is
sorry drunk Sherlock know what she said
that's a jump shot very
I thought you said jump Sherlock is somebody out there should do just a
specialist cosplay of drunk Sherlock happy pretty
one around that last time we were here that there were lots of people in white
sheets I can't see any drunk shirt just drunk sir look you know mean no no is
that a trunk Charlotte oh yeah what you mean he's on the stank dude he's getting
pissed he's always yeah
then i go into my mind Palace yeah I thought it was that right here where is
it is compromised
you talk about jokes but the show does strike the perfect balance between you
know you have to manage the narrative arc but you also have to manage the
drama so how do you how much comedy are you cutting out of each episode to sort
of keep everything in balance
we never cut jokes both mark and I are besties right there are ya
so we don't well you know the i think one of the hopefully a strength of the
show is a the way we look at it is if there isn't a major plot development if
there isn't a major moment of drama off right we'll put some jokes it
so there's always quite a lot of gags in charlotte other meant to be they're
meant to be gags the advantage of it being a drama is the gag doesn't work
you can just pretend it was a serious
you know it's like we always say this is late life III think that's such a false
distinction between comedy and drama life is always a mixture of the two we
talked about this is the day that the times you feel you know the most under
pressure to behave the times you get hysterical and slightly laugh about
things and as in likely that your release from a terrible dramatic
situation is often human that's the way it should be
shouldn't be a false distinction has to be all prophase are all straight forward
comedy but what's great is it in the beginning of the series a lot lot of the
jokes were very meta jokes about the concept of that you are doing a sherlock
series and they really evolved into the relationships between the two of you so
here you are there are you improvising it all on the set between between you
and Marta know there's no matter there's not much room for improvisation but you
know this is a this is a very beautiful e-type bringing because he piece of
music you don't you can't it's not just I mean there's jazz in the sense of how
you deliver it
absolutely the roses and there's always an involvement martin and i have with
going I'd like to try this or not that
and there's that again but it's my new shoe and beyond that no there's no
improvisation
it's about how we do it rather than what we do I'm you know what we're doing is
what we saw not for which is gloriously read the script and it's a treat so you
don't really want to muck around with that their remote there are moments i'm
trying to think in in this particular series as well where does get loose' for
good reason
you know in every regard
I mean psychologically with what shot goes through and and what Watson goes
through and what we will go through which yet the form of it being that sort
of completed one saying yeah rabbiting on yet there's a looseness but your
you've got a very strict tempo to a baby with with with the scripts i think
that's what I'm trying to say gosh I don't know if I no not at all please
don't even understand is that they offer
hail flew in to come to LA I mean to San Diego for The Globe days
I know sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry people have real conversations here my
panties but uh they came here basically for two days and then there immediately
going straight back to work i mean us the energy we did it we did a week of
night shoots and all sorts
before we go here's my hello that sound like a cat was a good
uh-huh it's raining out and we had that we had a lot of paint captain got in a
block
we had a lot of Kate last week another cake like a class we can't hurt to hit
the trail buddy's birthday
yeah
and
happy no no don't do it don't do it don't do it shit like what I started
you have happy birthday mr. president
hey what's going on any more sleep
taking your clothes off the longest but I mean it's great thinking about it
there you go just like you thank you for your level of commitment
I like that this action was like no we started and we're not stopping this
train
wow that was with haha
Amanda that merit Mary's ark was in incredible a/c and did not i mean
legitimately did not see it coming to where you did you have how does this
process work in terms of at the beginning of the season they set you
down ago this is what's gonna happen or do you not find out
I didn't know I was going to be an assassin until the third episode when i
read it but I that but I've been told by Stephen a mark that she had a very dark
past them in a big secret and that would be kind of cataclysmic in the third
episode
look at that i know i have to shoot the hero but when i read that i was with
Martin when I read it and I looked at him and I went they're going to hate me
for doing that and actually you know it but um but isn't it
what an amazing thing to play one amazing character to play I think she's
you know she's I think she's so well-rounded as it as a character and
she's tricky and she's independent and she's sexy and she's dangerous and I
think that's really that's great for females act of the play
I love if the roles were reversed would you have read the file
if the world I would if I invited
what i've read the third of had it would know what you have read the file about
your partner's past would you call i would be cool
yeah yeah I read anything
yeah anything that anybody Past I'm all over that yeah but now I'm okay
yeah I think that's really cool that he never reads it I think that you know
that's a really good
it's a really interesting it just means you know John's my boy John's more
it's just full of cat videos yeah haha and picture and my puppy is quite good
though you didn't know the number three because those into the first absolutely
I would have played it differently had I known that that's what that was the
outcome in in episode 3 I would have played her with more of an edge and more
knowing but but the beauty of not knowing was that you thought okay she's
a real mild mannered very sweet charming character and actually she was ruthless
and I kind of like that you that the payoff of that was so intense and in
episode 3
yeah because it now every character has admitted the characters really could
have just been all one-dimensional I think people would have been fine with
that but now even the fact that your character kind of makes John address the
fact that he is addicted to drama and there's all these yeah
PSD and all this danger start stuff that's going on we're all floor that's
what I love about the writing every character this in this series is flawed
in some way and that's so much more interesting to watch and to play
I much rather watch a flawed character because you kind of been you know you
can't help but like the more you judge them and that's what you're supposed to
do you think that's what you're supposed to do supposed to judge your characters
my kind
mrs. Hudson i love getting more sure i'm shooting
she suddenly comes out with you think of these things you know it's like you were
married to a drug deal how is that possible but it's just but it
it's totally plausible because of the writing the writers you know that's why
it's close but how did it work did you plan that even in market you plan that
arc from the very beginning of that season
what the commander one of the air yeah the American yeah absolutely
happy for me I mean we had deliberately made the show a bit later in the first
two episodes so fearing it towards comedy almost so that mean for you and
you get some a third of the way into his last vote and it's still quite funny
yeah and then she turns around and everything you've been told
up until that point is a dirty lie right which I i always like that to happen at
some point in the day because that's the truth of your life everywhere like an
assassin
so what those all those moments when you're keeping an eye on all those
moments that are seemingly innocuous moments that are very subtle that people
would never point out even just the show she has an amazing
you know I for detail and she remembers think you have already planned which
scenes
those are going to be but you don't tell her because you don't want her to
well we wanted it to be passed faked you want her to this get it this guy's to be
perfect but if you do look at it
she works out the skit called in a moment and you see Charlotte register
that's odd
and then get carried away with saving John and you see it happen to that the
speed with which she remembers the room number in the sign of three all those
things that they have a list of words around other
it says liar amongst all the other stuff yeah he started subconsciously blocking
those things but actually there isn't a woman who said who is an actor in this
series who has to sort of he has to sort of have pretended to know something and
he he was unsure about what you when and I was not trying to take him through it
I said of educated just pretend shouldn't have
exactly it is actually easier when you're trying to disguise yourself
rather than playing the results you know if you're actually saying oh I have a
secret
it's actually better not to go because then you don't present anything right
and then we don't give anything away to the audience are no hotels right and the
Victorian special was amazing abominable bride and in terms of I think I sort of
expected it to be
well this is a standalone this is a separate sort of fun thing that we're
gonna do
well you expected that because we explicitly told you that's what it was
yeah she shows the power of lying
Trump yeah you know someone's gonna make a meme of your face Stephen and this is
going to say liar liar liar and I secretly Deb
in fairness I do say the time lying and then I'll I and people get cross what
made by the fact i totally baby you're lying then it's like trying to answer
the question is it opposite day you can't answer that question
you can't lie all the time you've got a lie some of the time and no one can
trust you at any point
write that down kids write that down that's how it works but faces for
marriage
videos in lr h
ok so what was the decision to tie everything back in and how did you
decide to sort of make it part of this mind Palace journey and weave it into
where the last episode left off
well it's sort of it that the idea began as a is it not really is a joke just
something we sort of batted around be fun and we thought we would be fantastic
that really the only to holmes and watson ever done
modern day and . with basil rathbone and Nigel Bruce and that'd be brilliant in a
to go really right back to the beginning and so but sort of treat it
if if we'd had the idea to just do Sherlock Holmes as it usually is it
would still be that was the show we would have done it wasn't suddenly very
sort of frosty and slow pace setter it would be Sherlock but in that that . but
if we just have this narrow window where we could make special with everyone's
Diaries worked and it was kind of the only time we could tell that story was
in those five minutes before the plane lands and then we just obviously had to
fit about it and just say it was a standalone because it looks like we're
going crazy
yeah but it was that it was so much fun was that mean it was at the really
really odd thing is that when we first began quite a lot of press did ask us
you know how can you do show a coach without gas lamps and hansom cabs and
then we did so impressed with a special and a couple of them said but how can
sherlock holmes exist in a world without iphone what we've done something right
there isn't there is some precedent for it
it was great it was such fun to play I mean that it's a joy that we we managed
to sort of straddle both areas and I i I'd yeah I i'm very happy in Victorian
garb but not least because what we talked about the coats lots that doesn't
appear too much on that one but the hair
it's just so much easier having slipped back to tell you i spent longer in that
chair getting my head
cute was it diffused and cover what would never let the lady what is the
sure like a process for cosplayers a to know they are no choice to use think
it's got its own hashtag so much yeah
so this page I noticed victorian Sherlock was a little bit different than
modern day
as you should be yeah I mean I think you know he he projects with some degree of
accuracy into into a past
I mean you know you've got Molly Hooper pretending to be a man you've got all
sorts of things that are slightly sort of unfeasible in a real victory in here
I suppose
no no this is very true but yeah as far as Shell it goes yeah he was
I wanted him to be more stiff
I want it if that is possible but sort of it you know straight back and just a
little bit a little bit cooler and of that era so a little bit more clips in
his dialect a little bit
more sort of crisp and polite to war era he was in and the other something
slightly more severe that the edges that have been rounded i think by what's in
the the overarching humanization of him in our version were kind of retrograde a
bit and that was fun to play with really good fun to play with and with we also
ended up with it without an unexpected thing really in that last see where that
the credits roll and then it suddenly goes back to Baker Street and Sherlock
says to John this is this is my idea of what the future might be like
so which really poses the possibility that the entire series our series is
just the fevered imaginings of a real victorian right so maybe the whole thing
is just a Victorian man's idea that if you don't stop haha
so I guess all for that because you're playing with time that is technically a
doctor who cross over
oh god it's happened as close as you'll ever get
yeah but it does seem to allow you the possibility to jump back and forth in
future episodes you do you foresee that ever I don't think so i think that was
the the time we could do it and I'm the obvious one to do is is to do it in the
original authentic Victorian gear just to see once that way
mark and I are of course obsessed with the idea that one day we can do the
nineteen forties propaganda movie where they will fight the Nazis like basil
rathbone and Nigel Bruce but you know if we announce that we've lost our minds to
her
no wait I don't you think about johnny 17
uh-huh sorry what's the role of what is the relationship dynamic between show up
and Sherlock and Mycroft is a little bit different in abominable bride
so what I'm I'm thick-headed so I sort of missed
what was what is happening with the pudding and what is that what is that
dynamic well in the original stories my father is enormously fat and obviously
to go into the Victorian when we thought we'd go for the full mr. creosote we
thought we talked about for years
yeah i was fun that would be and then this this idea of of that they actually
have a bet on how he's going to live
that's what I that's what I'm wondering about why is what well because their
whole thing is in shelli's head he's just basically having something really
crew
yeah what we have to do you have to imagine is that the whole thing is
actually taking place at lightning speed in his head but along the way he's
having fun he's tiny isn't brother into Jabba the Hutt yes he's big
taking John a bit more like manager Bruce etcetera and and having fun but
then that's one of the ways he's just poking their fucking finger at his
brother but also be putting and it was meant to be funny
Chris it is harming it was meant to be a joke and you just asked us to me i feel
like i'm gonna show Kimber public in front of 10,000 people were humiliated
now
Stephen I I just took it as a very serious dramatic moment which you asked
about know the reason i ask is because I was trying to figure out and now that
you've explained i understand that the relationship is so kind of toxic that
Mycroft would usher his own death to win a bet
we don't have either essentially that's why not
so what can we expect from my craft and season four is pudding
let's go near her dream about tell you really we have what we have a lot of fun
me too this season and a lot of things are resolved lot of things are raised
i'm at everything you can yeah it i know it's a divided into the air it's
definitely it's it's
yeah it's an evolving relationship I don't you start looking into in in one
of these before the end of last season you really did start peek into the idea
of it
Mycroft really loved him and he even course you love him
it's just it's like you
when I goes both ways that help you know he wants a man on the inside the tent
pissing out
he can't bear not literally that would be straight can't bear the fact that
it's that this amazingly intelligent brother is not part of his establishment
that's that's what is it all comes from a place
caring is just he doesn't really know how to express it that's in the first
episode in the very first episode it is it's cold and strange what he does but
he is worried about his brother and that's why he asked dr. was the spy on
them
it's not a conventional thing to do with the family member but he's not a
conventional person he always cares
yeah recently there was a picture of Sherlock with a dog
yes but you know what can you tell us it's a blood
it was the best thing we could do on the day with that dog was taking photographs
yeah it wasn't fucking but it wouldn't know what we were I mean it was using
specially were so the plot but the stage directions were you know very gets
dragged around london by a voracious bloodhound and it Lich
Edward the owner said that doesn't it doesn't like concrete much and it
doesn't like crowds doesn't like paper and pavement doesn't like people doesn't
like people we were in a market london is not an urban dog friend
fantastic we found out I think match for an urban cement on its way to the track
just like this one . i was literally pulling and like just chill and just
ended up on my back just because he just wouldn't move but he was the a very
lovely very affectionate but just SAT there for the whole time and we ended up
getting a bit hysterical delhi we were kind of just like Ben and I were going
this way about working very very hard to play show friends in London and open my
editor being self-conscious and then you have a bit of slathering concrete or may
have a lead
it just loses or something
the interest or I had to her like man rockman I he was holding the lead and
breaking our sharp pulling me along because the doctors over there having a
fag and kind of beer when you see the episode
there is actually a scene about that mark and i wrote standing on the paper
yeah to account for the fact that you could all move it so you told my
organization that was the hastily improvised we really had to get to
account for the fact that dog would not do what we're supposed to do so we
actually it's actually the nicest visited it is this dog is just hopeful
as we have to have to account for the back
it's a totally static top never work with anyone you know what about the fact
you don't get getting to the next season in and a baby and how does that change
the dynamic
ya know how amazing is there come on
he didn't what I got that you don't like what I'm talking about specifics how do
you think Mike will be fine you know she's pregnant let me open for three
take them forever she's pregnant she was delicious more pregnant than an elephant
I've got a longest gestation period I've ever known but it is an elegant
everything I don't know she yeah she the baby features the baby features and also
never work with babies either
no not that i don't know i have been compared to the dog the baby's having a
baby blue shirt and god bless her she was a beautiful baby and all he and
projectile vomited all over me
come on over and the baby went over and had a cigarette I don't want to bear you
know up the side but we use many babies and they were all very very sweet and
lovely but it's very difficult trying to get you know when you're doing a scene
when you're supposed to be carrying a baby and doing stuff and it's the end of
the day and they're tired obviously because their babies and yeah it was a
newborn babies and surprises me that somebody would give their newborn baby
overview yeah the producer you are them i work something out there to give up a
gift it's a strange thing and obviously babies want to show you it's always
tricky and you can't match the Saudi we're doing filming there with the
babies routine so you have a baby now then baby and you want to know how
little your learning about Cirie we are actually talking about working with
children and animals