1 00:00:00,930 --> 00:00:05,490 let's talk a little bit about season for what people can expect and look forward 2 00:00:05,490 --> 00:00:10,530 to where where you guys at in the process where two weeks from finishing 3 00:00:10,530 --> 00:00:19,500 series for where we have to fly back tonight yes tonight and Benedict and I 4 00:00:19,500 --> 00:00:24,930 have an enormous seem to shoot of Jesus the morning in that you want to practice 5 00:00:24,930 --> 00:00:30,119 it here or not but yeah practice it now or never get out of line right 6 00:00:30,119 --> 00:00:34,500 there's about twenty six pages that were doing that but it's going very well 7 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:37,500 right 8 00:00:38,550 --> 00:00:41,820 what do you think you guys have since the start of the show I mean I remember 9 00:00:41,820 --> 00:00:43,320 when the show first 10 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,860 someone you know gave me a screener of it before it even aired and instantly 11 00:00:46,860 --> 00:00:49,440 was about what is going to be everyone's new favorite show 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,040 starting from that point all these years later how do you think the show has 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,219 evolved and how do you keep how do you keep the characters fresh and the 14 00:00:56,219 --> 00:00:57,300 relationships 15 00:00:57,300 --> 00:01:01,530 intense I haven't the faintest idea and I don't know 16 00:01:01,530 --> 00:01:06,810 uh well I suppose one of the tremendous advantages that I know is is very 17 00:01:06,810 --> 00:01:10,049 popular with this crowd is that we just don't make very many 18 00:01:10,049 --> 00:01:14,850 and I'm by just not doing it very often were always fresh and rested when we 19 00:01:14,850 --> 00:01:18,330 make a new series but something like that when you're actually making three 20 00:01:18,330 --> 00:01:21,689 movies a year though I mean that actually is every one of these every two 21 00:01:21,689 --> 00:01:24,840 years less but that's not exaggerate are tiny attainment 22 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:31,560 but the fuck am I in the same . it must be said guy ritchie's only made two 23 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:37,080 yeah he get any hassle now yeah we get all the house of making quite a lot I 24 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:42,210 number I'd forgotten how many will be maybe 13 soon yeah that's almost a 25 00:01:42,210 --> 00:01:43,020 season 26 00:01:43,020 --> 00:01:47,909 yeah horror as the Americans would say half the season 27 00:01:47,909 --> 00:01:51,960 haha ya have it the British are very good at they'll just do five episodes 28 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,070 and be like we're good 29 00:01:53,070 --> 00:01:56,700 and then that's it you don't see anything so why do you think why how are 30 00:01:56,700 --> 00:02:00,899 you guys able to continue making the show and able to come back all these 31 00:02:00,899 --> 00:02:04,590 years when it that's not doesn't seem very I mean from that point of view what 32 00:02:04,590 --> 00:02:07,200 you get when you first read those scriptures to throw hopefully the 33 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,379 audience gets when they when they see it and it is the novelty it's the 34 00:02:10,379 --> 00:02:11,760 reinvention of the wheel 35 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,599 that's damn near perfect from kind of dollars . of view and as we know from 36 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:19,559 the books but every time it's a sort of placing of that is a blessing of what we 37 00:02:19,559 --> 00:02:24,809 try to achieve you know before in previous episodes and series and there's 38 00:02:24,809 --> 00:02:28,769 an evolution to all the characters and that as an act of the real pleasure to 39 00:02:28,769 --> 00:02:31,769 play and my god is there a lot of that in this in this series 40 00:02:32,579 --> 00:02:37,620 a lot of things come home to roost which is fantastically exciting but it's sort 41 00:02:37,620 --> 00:02:38,189 of chicken 42 00:02:38,189 --> 00:02:41,309 it's full of Brooks Ravens and chickens birds 43 00:02:41,309 --> 00:02:46,799 you know the kind of nesting on the way you can imagine and piano it's it's it's 44 00:02:46,799 --> 00:02:51,180 that really it's it's it's the thing of what's familiar but also what confounds 45 00:02:51,180 --> 00:02:56,010 expectations right and the level of invention and sheer balls eNOS of it i 46 00:02:56,010 --> 00:02:57,719 mean it's a properly 47 00:02:57,719 --> 00:03:00,809 yeah i mean the nominating so ambitious 48 00:03:00,809 --> 00:03:03,779 especially for television in the amount of time in budget we have it's quite 49 00:03:03,779 --> 00:03:06,299 extraordinary and there's also this really there's so many great 50 00:03:06,299 --> 00:03:10,469 undercurrents running under the show there's this is a recurring themes about 51 00:03:10,469 --> 00:03:14,339 addiction and broken relationships and dealing with mental health 52 00:03:15,510 --> 00:03:20,159 how important was that how important was that for you cast of yes there is you 53 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:26,760 didn't are there a lot of stories about a battery that the flats but yeah I 54 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,559 thought he was solving crimes 55 00:03:28,559 --> 00:03:35,819 what show do you think the Seas CSI miami got i'm sorry skooby doo 56 00:03:35,819 --> 00:03:38,999 yeah I don't know if you get to know what the truth honestly with we tried we 57 00:03:38,999 --> 00:03:43,739 just tried very hard over there of the last six years to keep it evolving and 58 00:03:43,739 --> 00:03:47,849 then that the big thing right from the beginning of doing 90 minute episodes 59 00:03:47,849 --> 00:03:51,479 film length episodes we realize quite quickly that we had to give them a real 60 00:03:51,479 --> 00:03:52,199 scale 61 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:56,609 you know and you've got to put the characters through an emotional wringer 62 00:03:56,609 --> 00:04:00,569 you can't just have story of the week it's not really like that so as a result 63 00:04:00,569 --> 00:04:05,099 you have to keep the characters are showing some wear and where you can't 64 00:04:05,099 --> 00:04:09,479 have John Watson being constantly astonished by sherlocks deductions 65 00:04:09,479 --> 00:04:13,019 because he would have got used to them so you have to evolve that part of you 66 00:04:13,019 --> 00:04:18,150 have to make sure that as Doyle did that the sherlock holmes at the end of the 67 00:04:18,150 --> 00:04:22,150 stories is not the same and we met at the beginning he has he has changed and 68 00:04:22,150 --> 00:04:25,449 and otherwise it's just not interesting I think that's one of the critical 69 00:04:25,449 --> 00:04:26,440 things about it 70 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,919 if you're going to do a show about a genius you can't do issue about a genius 71 00:04:29,919 --> 00:04:32,830 who doesn't learn right it doesn't make any sense 72 00:04:32,830 --> 00:04:38,169 he can't be the weird scary anymore or man we met in the first episode he just 73 00:04:38,169 --> 00:04:43,780 can't be otherwise he's not learning and they're geniuses do learn so i would 74 00:04:43,780 --> 00:04:48,580 imagine from the riders . and the actors are so brilliant that is quite nice to 75 00:04:48,580 --> 00:04:52,030 throw things at them take them out of their comfort zone and give you stuff to 76 00:04:52,030 --> 00:04:54,100 play with I think as well it isn't it 77 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:58,539 it's literally nice to throw things at the moment yeah and the boys to play 78 00:04:58,539 --> 00:05:04,180 with it so long as benefit always wears the cult and we never changed the code 79 00:05:04,180 --> 00:05:09,880 haha oh and quite hung up on the cold that's what I'm glad you did that 80 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,169 because I her 81 00:05:11,169 --> 00:05:14,260 it's going to resolve a long standing argument every year 82 00:05:14,770 --> 00:05:20,500 sooo tells me and in a dinner scene of domestic disharmony that we're going to 83 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:26,919 change the coats and I said we're not changing the coal because I'm what you 84 00:05:26,919 --> 00:05:27,940 see darling 85 00:05:27,940 --> 00:05:31,570 yeah yeah yeahs film while there's gonna be trouble at the mill tonight 86 00:05:31,570 --> 00:05:36,940 I mean that sad when popularity new marriage this your wife in front of an H 87 00:05:36,940 --> 00:05:41,260 code obsesses i'll stick up for Sue sometimes that coat needs to come off 88 00:05:41,260 --> 00:05:42,520 for two reasons 89 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,150 he wears other year yeah 90 00:05:47,740 --> 00:05:54,039 you're darn tootin that reason to have it always might need a minute here 91 00:05:54,669 --> 00:05:59,560 ok yeah well I wear a suit under that coat and also sometimes it's very hot 92 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,710 and sometimes you can see it's hot weather so it does come off every 93 00:06:02,710 --> 00:06:05,949 nothing but we did because we don't actually have many we don't have 94 00:06:05,949 --> 00:06:08,949 anything that you don't know everyone here we have a lot of catch that we try 95 00:06:08,949 --> 00:06:13,449 every year because every year we do an attempt to which is long hurt and it 96 00:06:13,449 --> 00:06:17,710 never makes that's what makes the side changed the TARDIS almost every year you 97 00:06:17,710 --> 00:06:19,539 won't change Sherlock's code 98 00:06:19,539 --> 00:06:23,979 it's still a police box I don't know if you got inside the coach yeah I don't 99 00:06:23,979 --> 00:06:28,750 know yeah I don't open my name is if anyone's out i'll do you see in the 100 00:06:28,750 --> 00:06:31,569 background of the beginning of the video they had all those notes up on the board 101 00:06:31,569 --> 00:06:35,740 and one of them said Doctor Who Sherlock crossover and then in Stevens riding 102 00:06:35,740 --> 00:06:40,509 over my dead body with a bunch of ! I think you'll find that was my android 103 00:06:40,509 --> 00:06:41,289 it's not over there 104 00:06:41,289 --> 00:06:46,449 maybe they're not bear i am not the one who blocks the Doctor Who Sherlock 105 00:06:46,449 --> 00:06:50,650 haha everybody else at this table that blocks it right 106 00:06:50,650 --> 00:06:57,280 no it's Trump as it is from the the first part of his plan 107 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:03,820 we can't let these two get together to build a wall are have a look like - I 108 00:07:03,820 --> 00:07:08,650 like shocked i like talking like you're like I like bush recognition 109 00:07:08,650 --> 00:07:11,650 I like them haha 110 00:07:13,090 --> 00:07:16,330 anyway biopic 111 00:07:16,330 --> 00:07:19,330 ok or in my face and hair I like it 112 00:07:21,010 --> 00:07:24,190 I didn't think that's the first time I've ever done and don't 113 00:07:24,190 --> 00:07:31,960 Amanda what are you what are you most excited about for season for the three 114 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,699 episodes haha 115 00:07:33,699 --> 00:07:36,940 it's very it's really dark 116 00:07:36,940 --> 00:07:43,780 it's the darkest that Stephen and marker written and yes it is i'm in a dark we 117 00:07:43,780 --> 00:07:47,050 when we read them all the best with what we've been we were kind of overwhelmed 118 00:07:47,050 --> 00:07:47,800 by the thing 119 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:53,440 yeah i guess they were shocking and amazing as always but they kinda if we 120 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,380 can pull yourself then it's amazing 121 00:07:56,380 --> 00:08:00,490 it's a genuine you an emotional roller coaster this series and the the learning 122 00:08:00,490 --> 00:08:03,490 curves are sort of yeah 123 00:08:03,490 --> 00:08:07,960 the massive with Jake's with joke 124 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,169 there are third some great jokes uh-huh 125 00:08:11,740 --> 00:08:15,039 i'm doing , also quite here yeah it is 126 00:08:15,039 --> 00:08:19,660 sorry drunk Sherlock know what she said 127 00:08:19,660 --> 00:08:23,590 that's a jump shot very 128 00:08:23,590 --> 00:08:26,710 I thought you said jump Sherlock is somebody out there should do just a 129 00:08:26,710 --> 00:08:30,110 specialist cosplay of drunk Sherlock happy pretty 130 00:08:30,110 --> 00:08:33,500 one around that last time we were here that there were lots of people in white 131 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:39,650 sheets I can't see any drunk shirt just drunk sir look you know mean no no is 132 00:08:39,650 --> 00:08:42,470 that a trunk Charlotte oh yeah what you mean he's on the stank dude he's getting 133 00:08:42,470 --> 00:08:43,730 pissed he's always yeah 134 00:08:43,730 --> 00:08:49,910 then i go into my mind Palace yeah I thought it was that right here where is 135 00:08:49,910 --> 00:08:50,840 it is compromised 136 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:55,340 you talk about jokes but the show does strike the perfect balance between you 137 00:08:55,340 --> 00:08:58,790 know you have to manage the narrative arc but you also have to manage the 138 00:08:58,790 --> 00:09:03,230 drama so how do you how much comedy are you cutting out of each episode to sort 139 00:09:03,230 --> 00:09:04,520 of keep everything in balance 140 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:09,770 we never cut jokes both mark and I are besties right there are ya 141 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,870 so we don't well you know the i think one of the hopefully a strength of the 142 00:09:14,870 --> 00:09:18,530 show is a the way we look at it is if there isn't a major plot development if 143 00:09:18,530 --> 00:09:22,640 there isn't a major moment of drama off right we'll put some jokes it 144 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,880 so there's always quite a lot of gags in charlotte other meant to be they're 145 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,600 meant to be gags the advantage of it being a drama is the gag doesn't work 146 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,850 you can just pretend it was a serious 147 00:09:31,850 --> 00:09:38,420 you know it's like we always say this is late life III think that's such a false 148 00:09:38,420 --> 00:09:42,020 distinction between comedy and drama life is always a mixture of the two we 149 00:09:42,020 --> 00:09:46,190 talked about this is the day that the times you feel you know the most under 150 00:09:46,190 --> 00:09:50,690 pressure to behave the times you get hysterical and slightly laugh about 151 00:09:50,690 --> 00:09:54,680 things and as in likely that your release from a terrible dramatic 152 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:57,260 situation is often human that's the way it should be 153 00:09:57,260 --> 00:10:01,400 shouldn't be a false distinction has to be all prophase are all straight forward 154 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,240 comedy but what's great is it in the beginning of the series a lot lot of the 155 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,660 jokes were very meta jokes about the concept of that you are doing a sherlock 156 00:10:08,660 --> 00:10:13,940 series and they really evolved into the relationships between the two of you so 157 00:10:13,940 --> 00:10:18,500 here you are there are you improvising it all on the set between between you 158 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:22,790 and Marta know there's no matter there's not much room for improvisation but you 159 00:10:22,790 --> 00:10:27,680 know this is a this is a very beautiful e-type bringing because he piece of 160 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:31,310 music you don't you can't it's not just I mean there's jazz in the sense of how 161 00:10:31,310 --> 00:10:32,060 you deliver it 162 00:10:32,060 --> 00:10:36,620 absolutely the roses and there's always an involvement martin and i have with 163 00:10:36,620 --> 00:10:40,150 going I'd like to try this or not that 164 00:10:40,150 --> 00:10:45,700 and there's that again but it's my new shoe and beyond that no there's no 165 00:10:45,700 --> 00:10:46,690 improvisation 166 00:10:46,690 --> 00:10:50,650 it's about how we do it rather than what we do I'm you know what we're doing is 167 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:55,210 what we saw not for which is gloriously read the script and it's a treat so you 168 00:10:55,210 --> 00:10:59,980 don't really want to muck around with that their remote there are moments i'm 169 00:10:59,980 --> 00:11:04,630 trying to think in in this particular series as well where does get loose' for 170 00:11:04,630 --> 00:11:05,590 good reason 171 00:11:05,590 --> 00:11:08,920 you know in every regard 172 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,060 I mean psychologically with what shot goes through and and what Watson goes 173 00:11:13,060 --> 00:11:19,300 through and what we will go through which yet the form of it being that sort 174 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:24,760 of completed one saying yeah rabbiting on yet there's a looseness but your 175 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,090 you've got a very strict tempo to a baby with with with the scripts i think 176 00:11:28,090 --> 00:11:30,520 that's what I'm trying to say gosh I don't know if I no not at all please 177 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,710 don't even understand is that they offer 178 00:11:32,710 --> 00:11:36,250 hail flew in to come to LA I mean to San Diego for The Globe days 179 00:11:36,250 --> 00:11:40,600 I know sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry people have real conversations here my 180 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:46,120 panties but uh they came here basically for two days and then there immediately 181 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,410 going straight back to work i mean us the energy we did it we did a week of 182 00:11:50,410 --> 00:11:52,480 night shoots and all sorts 183 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,570 before we go here's my hello that sound like a cat was a good 184 00:11:55,570 --> 00:12:00,100 uh-huh it's raining out and we had that we had a lot of paint captain got in a 185 00:12:00,100 --> 00:12:00,910 block 186 00:12:00,910 --> 00:12:05,320 we had a lot of Kate last week another cake like a class we can't hurt to hit 187 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,910 the trail buddy's birthday 188 00:12:06,910 --> 00:12:08,730 yeah 189 00:12:08,730 --> 00:12:12,339 and 190 00:12:12,339 --> 00:12:16,149 happy no no don't do it don't do it don't do it shit like what I started 191 00:12:17,290 --> 00:12:22,749 you have happy birthday mr. president 192 00:12:22,749 --> 00:12:25,749 hey what's going on any more sleep 193 00:12:26,410 --> 00:12:30,160 taking your clothes off the longest but I mean it's great thinking about it 194 00:12:31,149 --> 00:12:34,180 there you go just like you thank you for your level of commitment 195 00:12:34,839 --> 00:12:38,470 I like that this action was like no we started and we're not stopping this 196 00:12:38,470 --> 00:12:40,490 train 197 00:12:40,490 --> 00:12:43,850 wow that was with haha 198 00:12:44,540 --> 00:12:53,899 Amanda that merit Mary's ark was in incredible a/c and did not i mean 199 00:12:53,899 --> 00:12:58,070 legitimately did not see it coming to where you did you have how does this 200 00:12:58,070 --> 00:13:00,860 process work in terms of at the beginning of the season they set you 201 00:13:00,860 --> 00:13:03,470 down ago this is what's gonna happen or do you not find out 202 00:13:03,470 --> 00:13:07,160 I didn't know I was going to be an assassin until the third episode when i 203 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:12,350 read it but I that but I've been told by Stephen a mark that she had a very dark 204 00:13:12,350 --> 00:13:17,240 past them in a big secret and that would be kind of cataclysmic in the third 205 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:17,779 episode 206 00:13:17,779 --> 00:13:24,050 look at that i know i have to shoot the hero but when i read that i was with 207 00:13:24,050 --> 00:13:27,980 Martin when I read it and I looked at him and I went they're going to hate me 208 00:13:27,980 --> 00:13:32,060 for doing that and actually you know it but um but isn't it 209 00:13:32,060 --> 00:13:35,480 what an amazing thing to play one amazing character to play I think she's 210 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:41,300 you know she's I think she's so well-rounded as it as a character and 211 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:46,010 she's tricky and she's independent and she's sexy and she's dangerous and I 212 00:13:46,010 --> 00:13:50,360 think that's really that's great for females act of the play 213 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:56,510 I love if the roles were reversed would you have read the file 214 00:13:56,510 --> 00:13:59,020 if the world I would if I invited 215 00:13:59,020 --> 00:14:02,350 what i've read the third of had it would know what you have read the file about 216 00:14:02,350 --> 00:14:06,280 your partner's past would you call i would be cool 217 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,670 yeah yeah I read anything 218 00:14:09,670 --> 00:14:13,720 yeah anything that anybody Past I'm all over that yeah but now I'm okay 219 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,870 yeah I think that's really cool that he never reads it I think that you know 220 00:14:16,870 --> 00:14:18,310 that's a really good 221 00:14:18,310 --> 00:14:23,500 it's a really interesting it just means you know John's my boy John's more 222 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:29,350 it's just full of cat videos yeah haha and picture and my puppy is quite good 223 00:14:29,350 --> 00:14:33,250 though you didn't know the number three because those into the first absolutely 224 00:14:33,250 --> 00:14:36,040 I would have played it differently had I known that that's what that was the 225 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,120 outcome in in episode 3 I would have played her with more of an edge and more 226 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,840 knowing but but the beauty of not knowing was that you thought okay she's 227 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:49,420 a real mild mannered very sweet charming character and actually she was ruthless 228 00:14:49,420 --> 00:14:53,770 and I kind of like that you that the payoff of that was so intense and in 229 00:14:53,770 --> 00:14:54,670 episode 3 230 00:14:54,670 --> 00:14:59,050 yeah because it now every character has admitted the characters really could 231 00:14:59,050 --> 00:15:02,050 have just been all one-dimensional I think people would have been fine with 232 00:15:02,050 --> 00:15:06,400 that but now even the fact that your character kind of makes John address the 233 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,960 fact that he is addicted to drama and there's all these yeah 234 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,370 PSD and all this danger start stuff that's going on we're all floor that's 235 00:15:15,370 --> 00:15:19,000 what I love about the writing every character this in this series is flawed 236 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,720 in some way and that's so much more interesting to watch and to play 237 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,800 I much rather watch a flawed character because you kind of been you know you 238 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,680 can't help but like the more you judge them and that's what you're supposed to 239 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,860 do you think that's what you're supposed to do supposed to judge your characters 240 00:15:32,860 --> 00:15:33,440 my kind 241 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,830 mrs. Hudson i love getting more sure i'm shooting 242 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:42,290 she suddenly comes out with you think of these things you know it's like you were 243 00:15:42,290 --> 00:15:45,650 married to a drug deal how is that possible but it's just but it 244 00:15:45,650 --> 00:15:48,920 it's totally plausible because of the writing the writers you know that's why 245 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:55,220 it's close but how did it work did you plan that even in market you plan that 246 00:15:55,220 --> 00:15:57,440 arc from the very beginning of that season 247 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,220 what the commander one of the air yeah the American yeah absolutely 248 00:16:01,220 --> 00:16:05,960 happy for me I mean we had deliberately made the show a bit later in the first 249 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:11,450 two episodes so fearing it towards comedy almost so that mean for you and 250 00:16:11,450 --> 00:16:15,920 you get some a third of the way into his last vote and it's still quite funny 251 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,400 yeah and then she turns around and everything you've been told 252 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:25,700 up until that point is a dirty lie right which I i always like that to happen at 253 00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:32,420 some point in the day because that's the truth of your life everywhere like an 254 00:16:32,420 --> 00:16:33,230 assassin 255 00:16:33,230 --> 00:16:38,270 so what those all those moments when you're keeping an eye on all those 256 00:16:38,270 --> 00:16:42,710 moments that are seemingly innocuous moments that are very subtle that people 257 00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:45,770 would never point out even just the show she has an amazing 258 00:16:46,490 --> 00:16:50,480 you know I for detail and she remembers think you have already planned which 259 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,440 scenes 260 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,470 those are going to be but you don't tell her because you don't want her to 261 00:16:54,470 --> 00:16:57,890 well we wanted it to be passed faked you want her to this get it this guy's to be 262 00:16:57,890 --> 00:16:59,900 perfect but if you do look at it 263 00:16:59,900 --> 00:17:03,350 she works out the skit called in a moment and you see Charlotte register 264 00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:04,310 that's odd 265 00:17:04,310 --> 00:17:08,449 and then get carried away with saving John and you see it happen to that the 266 00:17:08,449 --> 00:17:11,420 speed with which she remembers the room number in the sign of three all those 267 00:17:11,420 --> 00:17:13,939 things that they have a list of words around other 268 00:17:13,939 --> 00:17:19,010 it says liar amongst all the other stuff yeah he started subconsciously blocking 269 00:17:19,010 --> 00:17:22,339 those things but actually there isn't a woman who said who is an actor in this 270 00:17:22,339 --> 00:17:29,060 series who has to sort of he has to sort of have pretended to know something and 271 00:17:29,060 --> 00:17:33,320 he he was unsure about what you when and I was not trying to take him through it 272 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,770 I said of educated just pretend shouldn't have 273 00:17:37,730 --> 00:17:40,429 exactly it is actually easier when you're trying to disguise yourself 274 00:17:40,429 --> 00:17:43,820 rather than playing the results you know if you're actually saying oh I have a 275 00:17:43,820 --> 00:17:44,630 secret 276 00:17:44,630 --> 00:17:48,020 it's actually better not to go because then you don't present anything right 277 00:17:48,020 --> 00:17:51,799 and then we don't give anything away to the audience are no hotels right and the 278 00:17:51,799 --> 00:17:58,160 Victorian special was amazing abominable bride and in terms of I think I sort of 279 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,090 expected it to be 280 00:17:59,090 --> 00:18:02,179 well this is a standalone this is a separate sort of fun thing that we're 281 00:18:02,179 --> 00:18:02,720 gonna do 282 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,919 well you expected that because we explicitly told you that's what it was 283 00:18:06,919 --> 00:18:09,919 yeah she shows the power of lying 284 00:18:10,580 --> 00:18:17,330 Trump yeah you know someone's gonna make a meme of your face Stephen and this is 285 00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:21,260 going to say liar liar liar and I secretly Deb 286 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:28,040 in fairness I do say the time lying and then I'll I and people get cross what 287 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,549 made by the fact i totally baby you're lying then it's like trying to answer 288 00:18:31,549 --> 00:18:35,299 the question is it opposite day you can't answer that question 289 00:18:35,299 --> 00:18:39,350 you can't lie all the time you've got a lie some of the time and no one can 290 00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:41,179 trust you at any point 291 00:18:41,179 --> 00:18:45,200 write that down kids write that down that's how it works but faces for 292 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,030 marriage 293 00:18:47,030 --> 00:18:50,840 videos in lr h 294 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:57,590 ok so what was the decision to tie everything back in and how did you 295 00:18:57,590 --> 00:19:02,750 decide to sort of make it part of this mind Palace journey and weave it into 296 00:19:02,750 --> 00:19:04,880 where the last episode left off 297 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,419 well it's sort of it that the idea began as a is it not really is a joke just 298 00:19:08,419 --> 00:19:12,140 something we sort of batted around be fun and we thought we would be fantastic 299 00:19:12,140 --> 00:19:15,890 that really the only to holmes and watson ever done 300 00:19:15,890 --> 00:19:20,630 modern day and . with basil rathbone and Nigel Bruce and that'd be brilliant in a 301 00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:23,929 to go really right back to the beginning and so but sort of treat it 302 00:19:23,929 --> 00:19:28,970 if if we'd had the idea to just do Sherlock Holmes as it usually is it 303 00:19:28,970 --> 00:19:32,360 would still be that was the show we would have done it wasn't suddenly very 304 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:39,080 sort of frosty and slow pace setter it would be Sherlock but in that that . but 305 00:19:39,710 --> 00:19:44,000 if we just have this narrow window where we could make special with everyone's 306 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,840 Diaries worked and it was kind of the only time we could tell that story was 307 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,470 in those five minutes before the plane lands and then we just obviously had to 308 00:19:51,470 --> 00:19:55,159 fit about it and just say it was a standalone because it looks like we're 309 00:19:55,159 --> 00:19:56,210 going crazy 310 00:19:56,210 --> 00:20:00,110 yeah but it was that it was so much fun was that mean it was at the really 311 00:20:00,110 --> 00:20:04,820 really odd thing is that when we first began quite a lot of press did ask us 312 00:20:04,820 --> 00:20:09,919 you know how can you do show a coach without gas lamps and hansom cabs and 313 00:20:09,919 --> 00:20:13,490 then we did so impressed with a special and a couple of them said but how can 314 00:20:13,490 --> 00:20:18,350 sherlock holmes exist in a world without iphone what we've done something right 315 00:20:18,350 --> 00:20:21,350 there isn't there is some precedent for it 316 00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:26,360 it was great it was such fun to play I mean that it's a joy that we we managed 317 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:32,000 to sort of straddle both areas and I i I'd yeah I i'm very happy in Victorian 318 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,809 garb but not least because what we talked about the coats lots that doesn't 319 00:20:35,809 --> 00:20:38,570 appear too much on that one but the hair 320 00:20:38,570 --> 00:20:42,590 it's just so much easier having slipped back to tell you i spent longer in that 321 00:20:42,590 --> 00:20:44,059 chair getting my head 322 00:20:44,059 --> 00:20:48,860 cute was it diffused and cover what would never let the lady what is the 323 00:20:48,860 --> 00:20:54,529 sure like a process for cosplayers a to know they are no choice to use think 324 00:20:54,529 --> 00:20:57,140 it's got its own hashtag so much yeah 325 00:20:57,140 --> 00:21:00,950 so this page I noticed victorian Sherlock was a little bit different than 326 00:21:00,950 --> 00:21:02,090 modern day 327 00:21:02,090 --> 00:21:06,500 as you should be yeah I mean I think you know he he projects with some degree of 328 00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:08,750 accuracy into into a past 329 00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:12,380 I mean you know you've got Molly Hooper pretending to be a man you've got all 330 00:21:12,380 --> 00:21:16,850 sorts of things that are slightly sort of unfeasible in a real victory in here 331 00:21:16,850 --> 00:21:17,990 I suppose 332 00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:21,649 no no this is very true but yeah as far as Shell it goes yeah he was 333 00:21:22,159 --> 00:21:25,490 I wanted him to be more stiff 334 00:21:25,490 --> 00:21:30,679 I want it if that is possible but sort of it you know straight back and just a 335 00:21:30,679 --> 00:21:34,789 little bit a little bit cooler and of that era so a little bit more clips in 336 00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:36,470 his dialect a little bit 337 00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:42,650 more sort of crisp and polite to war era he was in and the other something 338 00:21:42,650 --> 00:21:46,520 slightly more severe that the edges that have been rounded i think by what's in 339 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:52,250 the the overarching humanization of him in our version were kind of retrograde a 340 00:21:52,250 --> 00:21:56,659 bit and that was fun to play with really good fun to play with and with we also 341 00:21:56,659 --> 00:22:01,190 ended up with it without an unexpected thing really in that last see where that 342 00:22:01,190 --> 00:22:04,820 the credits roll and then it suddenly goes back to Baker Street and Sherlock 343 00:22:04,820 --> 00:22:09,740 says to John this is this is my idea of what the future might be like 344 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:15,260 so which really poses the possibility that the entire series our series is 345 00:22:15,260 --> 00:22:20,330 just the fevered imaginings of a real victorian right so maybe the whole thing 346 00:22:20,330 --> 00:22:24,380 is just a Victorian man's idea that if you don't stop haha 347 00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:29,480 so I guess all for that because you're playing with time that is technically a 348 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,799 doctor who cross over 349 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:35,570 oh god it's happened as close as you'll ever get 350 00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:40,190 yeah but it does seem to allow you the possibility to jump back and forth in 351 00:22:40,190 --> 00:22:44,059 future episodes you do you foresee that ever I don't think so i think that was 352 00:22:44,059 --> 00:22:49,010 the the time we could do it and I'm the obvious one to do is is to do it in the 353 00:22:49,010 --> 00:22:53,059 original authentic Victorian gear just to see once that way 354 00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:56,840 mark and I are of course obsessed with the idea that one day we can do the 355 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,280 nineteen forties propaganda movie where they will fight the Nazis like basil 356 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,480 rathbone and Nigel Bruce but you know if we announce that we've lost our minds to 357 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,300 her 358 00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:10,950 no wait I don't you think about johnny 17 359 00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:16,530 uh-huh sorry what's the role of what is the relationship dynamic between show up 360 00:23:16,530 --> 00:23:20,010 and Sherlock and Mycroft is a little bit different in abominable bride 361 00:23:20,010 --> 00:23:23,400 so what I'm I'm thick-headed so I sort of missed 362 00:23:23,970 --> 00:23:27,120 what was what is happening with the pudding and what is that what is that 363 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:33,210 dynamic well in the original stories my father is enormously fat and obviously 364 00:23:33,210 --> 00:23:36,630 to go into the Victorian when we thought we'd go for the full mr. creosote we 365 00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:37,980 thought we talked about for years 366 00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:41,850 yeah i was fun that would be and then this this idea of of that they actually 367 00:23:41,850 --> 00:23:44,610 have a bet on how he's going to live 368 00:23:44,610 --> 00:23:48,300 that's what I that's what I'm wondering about why is what well because their 369 00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:50,910 whole thing is in shelli's head he's just basically having something really 370 00:23:50,910 --> 00:23:51,360 crew 371 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:54,150 yeah what we have to do you have to imagine is that the whole thing is 372 00:23:54,150 --> 00:23:57,840 actually taking place at lightning speed in his head but along the way he's 373 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,860 having fun he's tiny isn't brother into Jabba the Hutt yes he's big 374 00:24:01,860 --> 00:24:06,180 taking John a bit more like manager Bruce etcetera and and having fun but 375 00:24:06,180 --> 00:24:09,660 then that's one of the ways he's just poking their fucking finger at his 376 00:24:09,660 --> 00:24:13,290 brother but also be putting and it was meant to be funny 377 00:24:13,290 --> 00:24:17,670 Chris it is harming it was meant to be a joke and you just asked us to me i feel 378 00:24:17,670 --> 00:24:21,600 like i'm gonna show Kimber public in front of 10,000 people were humiliated 379 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,080 now 380 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:28,230 Stephen I I just took it as a very serious dramatic moment which you asked 381 00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:32,430 about know the reason i ask is because I was trying to figure out and now that 382 00:24:32,430 --> 00:24:36,390 you've explained i understand that the relationship is so kind of toxic that 383 00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:39,300 Mycroft would usher his own death to win a bet 384 00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:42,720 we don't have either essentially that's why not 385 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,370 so what can we expect from my craft and season four is pudding 386 00:24:47,370 --> 00:24:51,540 let's go near her dream about tell you really we have what we have a lot of fun 387 00:24:51,540 --> 00:24:58,560 me too this season and a lot of things are resolved lot of things are raised 388 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:03,810 i'm at everything you can yeah it i know it's a divided into the air it's 389 00:25:03,810 --> 00:25:05,550 definitely it's it's 390 00:25:05,550 --> 00:25:10,470 yeah it's an evolving relationship I don't you start looking into in in one 391 00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:13,470 of these before the end of last season you really did start peek into the idea 392 00:25:13,470 --> 00:25:14,010 of it 393 00:25:14,010 --> 00:25:18,090 Mycroft really loved him and he even course you love him 394 00:25:18,090 --> 00:25:19,200 it's just it's like you 395 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,130 when I goes both ways that help you know he wants a man on the inside the tent 396 00:25:23,130 --> 00:25:24,510 pissing out 397 00:25:24,510 --> 00:25:29,010 he can't bear not literally that would be straight can't bear the fact that 398 00:25:29,010 --> 00:25:32,940 it's that this amazingly intelligent brother is not part of his establishment 399 00:25:32,940 --> 00:25:35,429 that's that's what is it all comes from a place 400 00:25:35,429 --> 00:25:39,630 caring is just he doesn't really know how to express it that's in the first 401 00:25:39,630 --> 00:25:44,519 episode in the very first episode it is it's cold and strange what he does but 402 00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:49,139 he is worried about his brother and that's why he asked dr. was the spy on 403 00:25:49,139 --> 00:25:49,440 them 404 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,980 it's not a conventional thing to do with the family member but he's not a 405 00:25:52,980 --> 00:25:55,559 conventional person he always cares 406 00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:59,519 yeah recently there was a picture of Sherlock with a dog 407 00:26:00,059 --> 00:26:03,809 yes but you know what can you tell us it's a blood 408 00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:08,850 it was the best thing we could do on the day with that dog was taking photographs 409 00:26:08,850 --> 00:26:16,590 yeah it wasn't fucking but it wouldn't know what we were I mean it was using 410 00:26:16,590 --> 00:26:21,510 specially were so the plot but the stage directions were you know very gets 411 00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:25,500 dragged around london by a voracious bloodhound and it Lich 412 00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:28,590 Edward the owner said that doesn't it doesn't like concrete much and it 413 00:26:28,590 --> 00:26:33,510 doesn't like crowds doesn't like paper and pavement doesn't like people doesn't 414 00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:38,279 like people we were in a market london is not an urban dog friend 415 00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:42,840 fantastic we found out I think match for an urban cement on its way to the track 416 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,070 just like this one . i was literally pulling and like just chill and just 417 00:26:47,070 --> 00:26:53,159 ended up on my back just because he just wouldn't move but he was the a very 418 00:26:53,159 --> 00:26:57,960 lovely very affectionate but just SAT there for the whole time and we ended up 419 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,080 getting a bit hysterical delhi we were kind of just like Ben and I were going 420 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:06,630 this way about working very very hard to play show friends in London and open my 421 00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:11,340 editor being self-conscious and then you have a bit of slathering concrete or may 422 00:27:11,340 --> 00:27:12,389 have a lead 423 00:27:12,389 --> 00:27:14,350 it just loses or something 424 00:27:14,350 --> 00:27:19,990 the interest or I had to her like man rockman I he was holding the lead and 425 00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:24,100 breaking our sharp pulling me along because the doctors over there having a 426 00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:30,250 fag and kind of beer when you see the episode 427 00:27:30,820 --> 00:27:34,510 there is actually a scene about that mark and i wrote standing on the paper 428 00:27:34,510 --> 00:27:38,890 yeah to account for the fact that you could all move it so you told my 429 00:27:38,890 --> 00:27:41,830 organization that was the hastily improvised we really had to get to 430 00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:44,890 account for the fact that dog would not do what we're supposed to do so we 431 00:27:44,890 --> 00:27:50,020 actually it's actually the nicest visited it is this dog is just hopeful 432 00:27:50,020 --> 00:27:52,120 as we have to have to account for the back 433 00:27:52,120 --> 00:28:03,100 it's a totally static top never work with anyone you know what about the fact 434 00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:07,480 you don't get getting to the next season in and a baby and how does that change 435 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,620 the dynamic 436 00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:12,159 ya know how amazing is there come on 437 00:28:12,159 --> 00:28:15,070 he didn't what I got that you don't like what I'm talking about specifics how do 438 00:28:15,070 --> 00:28:19,840 you think Mike will be fine you know she's pregnant let me open for three 439 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,840 take them forever she's pregnant she was delicious more pregnant than an elephant 440 00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:30,610 I've got a longest gestation period I've ever known but it is an elegant 441 00:28:30,610 --> 00:28:39,730 everything I don't know she yeah she the baby features the baby features and also 442 00:28:39,730 --> 00:28:41,380 never work with babies either 443 00:28:41,380 --> 00:28:45,940 no not that i don't know i have been compared to the dog the baby's having a 444 00:28:45,940 --> 00:28:52,030 baby blue shirt and god bless her she was a beautiful baby and all he and 445 00:28:52,809 --> 00:28:55,990 projectile vomited all over me 446 00:28:56,649 --> 00:29:01,779 come on over and the baby went over and had a cigarette I don't want to bear you 447 00:29:01,779 --> 00:29:05,919 know up the side but we use many babies and they were all very very sweet and 448 00:29:05,919 --> 00:29:09,429 lovely but it's very difficult trying to get you know when you're doing a scene 449 00:29:09,429 --> 00:29:12,549 when you're supposed to be carrying a baby and doing stuff and it's the end of 450 00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:17,139 the day and they're tired obviously because their babies and yeah it was a 451 00:29:17,139 --> 00:29:21,519 newborn babies and surprises me that somebody would give their newborn baby 452 00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:26,559 overview yeah the producer you are them i work something out there to give up a 453 00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:31,899 gift it's a strange thing and obviously babies want to show you it's always 454 00:29:31,899 --> 00:29:34,570 tricky and you can't match the Saudi we're doing filming there with the 455 00:29:34,570 --> 00:29:44,619 babies routine so you have a baby now then baby and you want to know how 456 00:29:44,619 --> 00:29:50,049 little your learning about Cirie we are actually talking about working with 457 00:29:50,049 --> 00:29:50,950 children and animals